Re: Protection and Firearms
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:04 pm
I am going to jump in on this even though my information will directly conradict others views. If found contradictory just know I am not attempting to pee farther than onyone just giving my opinion.
I am not in anyway a fan of 9mm as a self defense weapon. Will they kill a human intent on harming you? Yes. So will a pellet gun if you shoot it right.
I am a big fan of a .40 caliber with what I call flying ashtray rounds. Lots of ft. pounds plenty of speed and if you get the right bullet it will expand to create a devistating wound channel. I am a bigger fan of a .45 when it is equipped with the right bullet.
To save a long story I have been to the cave and seen the critter that lives in the cave. A 9mm in almost every incident was simply not enough. A .45 is just a nasty round. Shoot someone with a 45 and it is like a brick.
Tips to live by. If you have multiple weapons to protect your family. They should all be the same. Same rounds interchangable magazines. We at the station are no longer aloud to carry anything other than a Glock .40 and Golden Saber ammunition. If I have a malfunction I can pick up a downed officer's weapon and it is the same as the one I had. The muscle memory is there. The weapon is exactly the same. His mags will fit my weapon and vice versa. No thinking involved just pick it up and get in the fight.
If your in a situation where two of you are on the bus and you have two differnet weapons there is no switching. I would prefer our patrol rifles be the same as our side arms. Same mags ammo everything. When the crapper bucket get spilled there is no time for figuring out how to operate a weapon. Muscle memory can go south when involving more than one weapon.
So far as shotguns. No shotgun is more powerful than the other. When a pellet leaves the barrel it is the same as any other pellet. It is the weight of the pellet and speed. All shotguns be them a 410 or a 10 guage have a variation on speeds when you buy the loads for them. The only difference in them is their shot capacity. There is no difference in pellet penetration twix any guage. In other words a #4 pellet from a 10 guage at 1200 FPS is no differnet than a #4 pellet at 1200 FPS from a 410. When they leave that barrel they are the same.
I like the idea of the 4 button lock box.
I am a fan of training. Training does not consist of punching paper. Training is getting physical and then firing rounds. Getting the heartrate to a certain level and then forcing your body to perform. Shoot from the ground shoot from behind objects. Here is an example: If you train standing in front of a target for the next 5 years. If a dangerous encounter happens you could very easily stand right in front of that dangerous encounter and shoot exactly like you were at the paper. Muscle memory can help you or get you killed. So if you train to see a danger, fire at the danger as you are getting to cover and then keep firing at the danger until it is no longer a danger then your training. Punching holes in paper is not training. You must force yourself to do mag changes as fast as you can. When you drop that empty mag let it hit the ground, sling it if you have to but get it out and make the change. Damage it if you have to but get it out of there and move on. They are cheap if you think about the consequenses. Officer have been killed doing in a fire fight as they did at the range. One officer reloaded to save on costs. As he would empty his revolver during training he lined the empty shell casings up all neat and orderly. When they found him dead behind a car after the fight, his empties were lined up next to his body. Muscle memory!!!!
If you intend to use a weapon then get to a training facility and research your trainer. If he is not a combat trainer then find one. If your getting serious enough to own and use a weapon in a fire fight then get educated as to what a real fire fight is like. It is not what you think. When the guns go off at the range it is nothing. When they are pointed the other way and your in a fight before you even know you can hardly fubntion. You vision is limited to a pin hole and you can hardly move or so it seams.
To sum it up. Big gun with a bullet designed for a specific purpose. Training!!! Pretty simple.
I am not in anyway a fan of 9mm as a self defense weapon. Will they kill a human intent on harming you? Yes. So will a pellet gun if you shoot it right.
I am a big fan of a .40 caliber with what I call flying ashtray rounds. Lots of ft. pounds plenty of speed and if you get the right bullet it will expand to create a devistating wound channel. I am a bigger fan of a .45 when it is equipped with the right bullet.
To save a long story I have been to the cave and seen the critter that lives in the cave. A 9mm in almost every incident was simply not enough. A .45 is just a nasty round. Shoot someone with a 45 and it is like a brick.
Tips to live by. If you have multiple weapons to protect your family. They should all be the same. Same rounds interchangable magazines. We at the station are no longer aloud to carry anything other than a Glock .40 and Golden Saber ammunition. If I have a malfunction I can pick up a downed officer's weapon and it is the same as the one I had. The muscle memory is there. The weapon is exactly the same. His mags will fit my weapon and vice versa. No thinking involved just pick it up and get in the fight.
If your in a situation where two of you are on the bus and you have two differnet weapons there is no switching. I would prefer our patrol rifles be the same as our side arms. Same mags ammo everything. When the crapper bucket get spilled there is no time for figuring out how to operate a weapon. Muscle memory can go south when involving more than one weapon.
So far as shotguns. No shotgun is more powerful than the other. When a pellet leaves the barrel it is the same as any other pellet. It is the weight of the pellet and speed. All shotguns be them a 410 or a 10 guage have a variation on speeds when you buy the loads for them. The only difference in them is their shot capacity. There is no difference in pellet penetration twix any guage. In other words a #4 pellet from a 10 guage at 1200 FPS is no differnet than a #4 pellet at 1200 FPS from a 410. When they leave that barrel they are the same.
I like the idea of the 4 button lock box.
I am a fan of training. Training does not consist of punching paper. Training is getting physical and then firing rounds. Getting the heartrate to a certain level and then forcing your body to perform. Shoot from the ground shoot from behind objects. Here is an example: If you train standing in front of a target for the next 5 years. If a dangerous encounter happens you could very easily stand right in front of that dangerous encounter and shoot exactly like you were at the paper. Muscle memory can help you or get you killed. So if you train to see a danger, fire at the danger as you are getting to cover and then keep firing at the danger until it is no longer a danger then your training. Punching holes in paper is not training. You must force yourself to do mag changes as fast as you can. When you drop that empty mag let it hit the ground, sling it if you have to but get it out and make the change. Damage it if you have to but get it out of there and move on. They are cheap if you think about the consequenses. Officer have been killed doing in a fire fight as they did at the range. One officer reloaded to save on costs. As he would empty his revolver during training he lined the empty shell casings up all neat and orderly. When they found him dead behind a car after the fight, his empties were lined up next to his body. Muscle memory!!!!
If you intend to use a weapon then get to a training facility and research your trainer. If he is not a combat trainer then find one. If your getting serious enough to own and use a weapon in a fire fight then get educated as to what a real fire fight is like. It is not what you think. When the guns go off at the range it is nothing. When they are pointed the other way and your in a fight before you even know you can hardly fubntion. You vision is limited to a pin hole and you can hardly move or so it seams.
To sum it up. Big gun with a bullet designed for a specific purpose. Training!!! Pretty simple.