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Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line

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Re: Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:56 am


Mike, thanks for posting the files. Great information.

I have seen one Eagle with the Eagle air bag installation with one double lobe bag per side at a rally many years ago (have a picture somewhere). I have also seen the factory documentation for the single airbag design. However, I have not seen the documentation for the double (per side) airbag system.

I can only guess why Eagle did not want the system active during travel. I suspect that they were concerned about the dynamic loading of the system. I would guess that there could be dynamic loads of at least two to four times the static (parked) loads on bumpy roads or hitting pot holes. Don Smith (Box Car Okie) had a structure failure on his single bag (non Eagle) system after hitting a large pot hole. His bus was a Suburban with a single rear axle and it was probably pretty heavily loaded statically.

While I have not done an engineering analysis of the various aftermarket (or Eagle) designs, my engineering background makes me nervous about loading the Torsilastic tube in the center. Not only am I concerned about the Torsilastic tube, I think that the frame structure could be overloaded with that kind of design.

I am very comfortable with a well designed dual airbag system where the loads are applied to the outside of the Torsilastic tube. This design is even better when using rolling lobe type airbags that are less harsh in transferring load from the axle to the frame. There are good dual bag designs in the thread I mentioned before.

The one issue that is overwhelming in any airbag installation is the integrity of original Eagle tubing. In many cases they rust from the inside out and the tubes need to be tested and/or reinforced.

Jim
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Re: Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:19 pm


Yes that is Roger Rices bus he took great care of that bus and did not abuse it great find. Was there an owner between you and Roger?
I thought he sold that a while back. John Killingsworth had an Eagle with factory leveling I would think that it could be converted to suspension with a little brain power and some valves.
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Re: Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:06 am


Yes, I bought it from a gentleman in Oregon. He had it about 2.5 years before I acquired it at the beginning of 2018. I believe the extended time in the desert is the reason for the minimal rust. It is evident Roger and the other owners took great care of the coach. We want to keep it for quite some time, so I’m doing all I can to continue their efforts.

Jim - Thank you for your feedback. Your expertise is appreciated.
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Re: Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:33 pm


Happy New Year everyone. 2020 is finally over. I apologize for not following up with the requested headlight information yet. Life has intervened. I'll post some pics and other information on that shortly. It is definitely a very custom install.

AC Tensioner bushing.GIF
Right side AC belt tensioner bushing(?)
AC Tensioner bushing.GIF (130.14 KiB) Viewed 289 times

In the meantime, can anyone assist in helping to identify the bushing (I assume) in the highlighted circle please? This is the pivot point for the right side AC belt tensioner. It requires an approximate 3/4" Torx socket and the part is approximately 4" long. I won't bore anyone with the backstory, but am hoping to identify the part and locate a replacement before disassembling. I haven't been able to find any information about it in my Eagle Manuals. Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:22 am


Mike, I would suspect that part is not standard for Eagle. I loose track of what engines Eagle offered, but I think the 8V92 would be a conversion, and the idler system is probably a part of that conversion. I do not remember seeing that kind of system in an Eagle.

That said, I also think it would be a bushing. About all you can do is to disassemble the idler pivot and see what is inside. If would happen to be a rolling element bearing, you will be able to find a replacement at an industrial power transmission distributor or on line. If it is a bushing, hopefully it will be a standard item. If so, the previously mentioned sources should be able to find a replacement.

If the bushing is custom made, it is a simple machining process to duplicate it.

As a side comment an properly designed automatically tensioning idler system (such as this one) is a great benefit to the belt drive system and the driven components.

Let us know what you find.

Jim
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Re: Monaco Eagle I Conversion Line
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:28 pm


Thank you for the information Jim.
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