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Craigs list-model 20
- beltguy
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- Bus Model: 1985 Eagle 10 with Series 60 and Eaton AutoShift 10 speed transmission (SOLD)
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
Called Sonnie again this morning to clarify the parking brake issue.
He said that he went to install the cage bolts in the spring can and the spring was compressed (no need for the cage bolt). That would suggest that the diaphragms that holds the springs compressed have air pressure (even thought the tanks have no pressure according to the gauge). That would suggest that a valve (or check valve) is somehow keeping pressure on the cans even though the system has lost pressure.
I guess that would make sense with what Clifford said the second valve was for. However, Sonnie has played with combinations of the valve settings and nothing seemed to make the parking brakes work.
Sonnie has very poor internet connection at his location, so I am relaying the information to him.
Jim
He said that he went to install the cage bolts in the spring can and the spring was compressed (no need for the cage bolt). That would suggest that the diaphragms that holds the springs compressed have air pressure (even thought the tanks have no pressure according to the gauge). That would suggest that a valve (or check valve) is somehow keeping pressure on the cans even though the system has lost pressure.
I guess that would make sense with what Clifford said the second valve was for. However, Sonnie has played with combinations of the valve settings and nothing seemed to make the parking brakes work.
Sonnie has very poor internet connection at his location, so I am relaying the information to him.
Jim
Jim Shepherd
Evergreen, CO
'85 Eagle 10 with Series 60 & Eaton AutoShift 10 speed transmission SOLD
2005 Dodge 2500 with 5.9 Cummins and 6 speed manual 2022 Sunset 28 foot trailer
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Evergreen, CO
'85 Eagle 10 with Series 60 & Eaton AutoShift 10 speed transmission SOLD
2005 Dodge 2500 with 5.9 Cummins and 6 speed manual 2022 Sunset 28 foot trailer
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- Dreamscape
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- FMCA #: F391238
- Bus Model: 1968 Silver Eagle Model 01
- Location: Full Timing - On The Road
Re: Craigs list-model 20
Instead of trying to re-write the manual. Here's the link I found. I think page 24 & 27 talks about PP-3 and PP-8 and the rest of the family.
Usually twin valves are used so that one has to be held down for a period of time in order to release. It's not like the PP-1
Anyway, good reading.
http://www.wsafc.org/WSFMA/Shared%20Doc ... ndbook.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Usually twin valves are used so that one has to be held down for a period of time in order to release. It's not like the PP-1
Anyway, good reading.
http://www.wsafc.org/WSFMA/Shared%20Doc ... ndbook.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Paul Lawry
Dreamscape
1968 Eagle 01 #7443
Silver 8V92 HT 740
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Dreamscape
1968 Eagle 01 #7443
Silver 8V92 HT 740
Dreamscape Build Blog: https://dreamscapesilvereagle.wordpress.com/
- luvrbus
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
The 2 valves on the NJT one was for brakes and the other interlocked others things like the steps, doors I think it was even tied to the starter anyway Sonnie got it going he just plugged the one valve so the air would exhaust and set the brakes.
good luck
Clifford
good luck
Clifford
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
Copy that Dale.Songman wrote:Dave, even a Model 10 (or 05 or 01) doesn't have room for a 60 without some rebuilding of the rear of the bus.DaveG wrote:Thanks Dale, I'll cut & paste that in my cheat sheet notes!
If the engine is all the way back, does that mean that it doesn't have room for an 8V or a 60? Is the solution to lengthen the back end? Is there another option? Just wondering...
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
With the two valve set up, did you still have to stab the brake pedal to release them like I do on my 15? just curious, as I don't have a manual(wish I did)to search through.
- luvrbus
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
Van, next time you come over I'll show you how to plumb the system were there is no need to hit the pedal.
good luck
Clifford
good luck
Clifford
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
itd be nice to not step on the pedal, but that big WHOOSH of air right before you pull away sure is pretty music.
kyle
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
Clifford that'd be super! Thanks I have always hated having to apply the pedal to release the brakes, a useful safety feature at one point during it's life as a revenue bus I am sure, but just a pain in the u no what!LOL
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
hey clifford is that an easy plumbing job ?
thanks john brown
thanks john brown
- luvrbus
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Re: Craigs list-model 20
Little harder for you John your bus unless someone converted it over you have DD3 parking brakes.
Van has spring parking brakes with a dual air system.
good luck
Clifford
Van has spring parking brakes with a dual air system.
good luck
Clifford