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1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell

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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:50 pm


Hey Wayne

Sure is looking good, just one thing wrong.
That engine is the wrong color Ha! Ha!
Nice progress, Most people don't realize
how much time it does take.
See you in Quartzsite soon.

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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:43 pm


Wayne, Rust Bullet is great stuff on metal and extremely bad on the lungs (don't ask how I know :D ). You MUST use breathing protection!!! I am not even sure that a good mask is enough.

If you can find a medical oxygen mask, I have a good diaphragm compressor that I use as a fresh air supply. A note of caution, do not use a piston compressor for fresh air supply, as the oil in the air can be bad as well. Perhaps an oil less compressor would be OK, but I would go with the diaphragm compressor just to be sure.

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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:47 pm


Wayne, Do you have any pics of your Other Eagle to share? Would like to see the interior, especially the kitchen.

Thanks
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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:57 pm


I'll second that,Wayne :D
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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:20 am


All that woodwork in the other bus is beautiful! I wish I could have taken pictures of that when I saw it at Quartzsite but I didn't have my camera with me.
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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:36 am


Dale, Please take some when you go this time, I'm anxious to see the layout and how it all looks.

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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:14 pm


Sonnie, All the stores around here are out of yellow paint. Richie Brothers had an auction last week I think they bought it all. :lol: Bring some to Quartzsite will that give me some more horse power?

Jim, Thanks for the heads up. I think We have a fresh air hood for our sandblaster.

Paul, I don't have any pictures of my 05 if Dale doesn't take any at Quartzsite I will and post them. ( I mean I will have Jim post them For me )
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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:56 am


I'll be glad to take some. Now that I know people a little better I will feel more comfortable asking if I can take pictures.
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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:39 pm


Post #7 Rear doors, Air tanks, Relay valves, Fuel tank

In trying to keep the exterior of the bus as clean as possible I am rebuilding the doors using hidden hinges. I am using a standard door hinge but recessing them to be flush with the back side of the siding. I then move them away from the support post about 3/4 of an inch. The siding is lapped past the hinge and stops at the support post. When the door opens the siding travels into the void made by moving the hinge away from the support post. This works fine for doors not used much such as the rear corner and battery compartment door. The one draw back is the door will only open to just past 90 degrees. The door also has to be restrained so the siding is not damaged if opened past 90 degrees. I will use different hinges on the main door ( the ones manufactured by Kentucky Steve). The rear engine door was replaced using an Eagle Panographic door.

All of the rear wheel wells were lined with 14 ga. sheet metal. This was done to create a water tight seal to all exterior spaces. The area between the frame members will be sprayed with foam to help cut down on road noise and control temperature.

The fuel tank fillers were put back pretty close to stock with two exceptions. They were moved to the rear wheel well and I used a wye instead of a tee to connect the two fillers to the tank. I fabricated the main fuel tank ( 100 gallon) using 11 ga. stainless steel sheets. I cut all pieces with a 1 inch lip on half of the sides. The 1 inch lip was bent to form a 90 degree angle. When the seams were welded it is easier to weld and makes a stronger weld. I will add more fuel tanks in the rear bay when I see how much room is left.

The bed frame over the engine compartment was fabricated using 1 inch tubing. I am having a cylinder made to lift the bed. When all the soundproofing, insulation and finish wood is added it will get too heavy to lift.

I mounted 4 air tanks in the rear of the bus. One wet tank and three tanks for the rear brakes. Two of the tanks are mounted in the rear wheel wells and two in the center section under the tunnel. For the brake system I am using Bendix componets because that is the brand I know about. An R14 relay is being used for the spring brakes and two R12's are being used for the service brakes. Four M30 modulating valves were mounted for the ABS system.

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Rear corner door


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Fuel tank filler, Relay valves, and air tank



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Fuel tank fabrication



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Feul tank ( note the 90 degree bend at the corners )



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Air tank in wheel well




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Bed frame
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Re: 1994 Model 15/45 By Wayne Schell
Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:24 pm


Post # 8 Rear wire harness

I have always been intimidated by the thought of building a wire harness from scratch. I tried to get the harness from the truck the engine came in but the recking yard used it to upgrade their test rack. That forced me into building the wire harness.
I purchased an installation manual for the engine and the Autoshift transmission. When I opened the manuals I became even more intimidated, but I kept on reading. I decided to take it one pin at a time and find out what that pin did. As time went on I began to realize it was not as compicated as I first thought. I learned the ECM does all the work; all I had to do is hook it to the proper light, sensor,switch, computer, etc. ( nothing to it :lol: )
The vehicle plug on the ECM has 68 pins. Each pin was studied and I figured out what it did, if it was needed, and what it was hooked to on the other end. The manuals are pretty good at helping figure this out if you are patient and can search the manual for what you need.
The next step was to draw a schematic that I could follow when building the harness.
The parts to build the harness are a little difficult to find. You can always get them from Detroit but we all know how proud they are of their parts. The engine ECM uses Tyco pins,connectors, and shrouds. The Manual has all the numbers listed of both Tyco and Detroit. I was lucky because a friend of mine got the Tyco parts as a sample and he buys from them all the time. I also used him to purchase the proper wire and the twisted shielded pair for the J 1939 communications. The transimmision connectors and pins ( both the 18 pin and the 30 pin ) can be purchased from Wytek. For all my bulkhead fittings I used Deutsch connectors purchased from Ladd Industries.
All of the pins are crimp type. It is important to use good crimping tools to accomplish this task. With a little practice and good tools a very good connection can be had.
I first designed a rear electric panel for the coach. By using relays for the trailer ( toad ) plug, the strater, and the dash air functions I only had to use lower amp wire for the runs to the front of the bus to control these functions. The panel also has a master shutoff for the coach, fuses for the DDEC and the transmission power and fuses for the runs of power to the front of the bus.
The Autoshift and the engine have to talk to one another. This is accomplished by using J 1939 communications. I chose to use gold plated pins and sockets on these wires. The price of these pins is not a lot more and it is important to get a good connection on these wires. Also J 1587 is used to relay information between the engine and the transmission and the front of the bus.
To keep track of the wires I am using a number system. I used clear heat shrink tube to hold the number in place.
With the rear panel complete I then ran the wires that tied the rear panel to the ECM's, the engine ECM to the transmission ECM, the ECM's to the front of the bus and the rear panel to the trailer plug. Each wire was checked for continuity, numbers checked on both ends, and numbers recorded along with the corresponding pin or socket at the Deutsch connector, or ECM pin. When running wire add a couple extra wires in the harness; you will be glad down the road when something was forgotten.
I do not have the finnal schematic finshed and it is only the rear part of the harness. When I am finished with the schematic I will be glad to pass it on, but remember it has not been tested and it will be a year or better before it will be tested.
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Pins and Sockets
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Deutsch connectors
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Engine ECM
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Numbering system
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Rear wire harness
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Rear panel
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Rear panel schematic
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