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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:27 am


Van, what I have seen on that other blog is that pads for the air bags are bolted to the top of the drive axle in the rear, and a stand is made that attaches to the top of the suspension in the front. It is the front one that scares me.

Clifford, send to me at Don's shop at:

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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:33 am


Great idea Clifford to post the information here.

Now get to work Dale and "git 'er done"! ;)

I have been toying with that idea for years every since I saw Ken's site and have had the pleasure of seeing Sonnie's.

I think you just want enough air to keep the bag slightly inflated to keep it's shape. With the low psi I wouldn't think it would affect the ride.

Nice to see you posting Gary!
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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:12 pm


Hello again guys,

Well I am glad to have seen so much interest in the air bags and I hope to answer all of the posts.

First of all, is anyone else having trouble with having to (LOG IN) each time to make a post besides me even though you click the box to keep me logged in?? You might know I forgot my darn password and had to go through the process to get a new one. Anyhow!!

Back to our Eagle.
Van, the air bags I will install are to be used in addition to the shocks, my plan is to only use them for leveling the bus at a camp site etc. I believe using them to raise for running down the road will cause problems with the Bogie Wheels. If they are needed in an emergency because of a failed torsion bar then that is a different story, you can raise your bus to the height you have set it to if you documented that height before running to assure that by using the air bags for use down the road you will be quite close in bogie wheel road pressure needed for safe operation.

Now, Cliff, you bet I would love to get any and all the information you have from Eagle to do this, you can post it to me any way you wish, I am sure if it is possible to put in the Tech Section of this board that maybe others will consider doing it if they so desire. Let me know how I can receive this from you or Paul.

Someone asked if the website by Ken Turner is the (PIPES) fellow and the answer is yes it is he. I will use his ideas to get started but am sure I will (Reinvent the wheel as usual) but will document it as I do to help others eliminate my mistakes if they wish to do this also. I calle Ken a couple of weeks ago and we talked for maybe an hour, a great guy to visit with and he verbally went over his design on the phone as I looked at his web site with questions. Ken did not post the photos of the finished all welded and supported project but I will after it is all installed.

Another thought, with the air bags you will never bottom out your axle's up against the rubber bumpers that are there in case you drop in a hole etc.with one of your wheels for the axles to make contact with the air bags instead of the frame of the bus. I believe the small pressure of the air bags will soften the blow if this happen and the rubber bumper will no longer be of any use. Now this is only an assumption on my part as I look at what I want to do so far.

Another question for the experienced converters here. What number of (sikoflex) should I purchase to mount my new bay doors on the driver side I will be making? There is so many different application numbers of this stuff. I welded 18 gaged metal on the curb side and you know what happened, what a job to make them come out good after the shrinkage but I got it done. Don't want to lose that time again. I have never used (sikoflex) so this is a new experience to put my trust in,I love welding but hate warpage to bondo in etc. sucks!!

I hope I have answered all the post replies to my question and I appreciate the freed back and will decide to do this for sure very soon. Knowing me it'll be a "GO" just for the challenge.

Thanks again, and your right Paul, I to am glad to be posting again.

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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:19 pm


Gary,

What browser are you using? I am not having any problems with having to log in over and over. It could be a problem with how your browser handles cookies. The only other thing I can think of might be about how long you are going between posts. I have noticed that if I walk away from the computer for half and hour that when I come back the forum has logged me out. I will check on that to see if that might be your issue.

I will watch this closely as I am interested in air bags. I love the idea of the big hydraulics that can lift the entire bus off the ground but airbags can be done for a lot less I think. The other thing about hydraulics that I have mentioned before is soft ground.

Gary, I may be the only one here who hasn't seen all this great work you have done on your Eagle. Sounds like it is time for a project thread with lots of pictures so we can all learn from your experiences.
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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:16 pm


Dale,

I too have problems every once in a while. Even if I can access the site, showing me logged in, I will close it and then come back to the log in screen. Maybe three or four times this week.

I have noticed ever since 1/1/2009 things don't work like they used to. I will get a message that my cookies is not set right and to check it. I have never changed it and still get this message occasionally.

No biggy, by the way I use IE. I have firefox, but I would have to start all over with cookies unless there is another way.

Gary,

It will be great to see how you install the air bags, because I know you will document every step.

You have generated my interest again!

Thanks.............I think! ;)
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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:19 pm


Must be the Y2K9 bug. They were just a few years late! :lol:

I'll check on it.
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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:16 pm


Gary,

Good to see you posting again buddy. And this is a very interesting topic too. I wonder? Why would the air bags have to even be a part of the suspension at all? Would it be possible to have an air leveling system separate from the suspension. Just thinking out loud here.


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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:25 pm


Steve, the factory installed air bag are separate from the suspension they are for leveling only but Southern Oregon incorprates them into the suspension on the 01.I am sending Dale the info from the model 15 manual to post for Gary and you guys


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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:40 pm


Hey guys,
Man talk about pissed. I just wrote one of my long post and tried to put the URL for my website on the message and it just went Poof in space I guess. So, I will rewrite another one but only shorter now.

I will post updates on my website that I did nearly a year ago but never posted them. When they are complete I will post on this bb'd so you can see them. I know Jim Shepherd asked me about them some time ago but I was just not in the position at that time to have any interest in posting them.

I will post my website now again if you don't already have it, the information on my bus is on the last 10 folders or so out of 197 folders. Before this message goes in cyberspace I will try to do this again.

http://community.webshots.com/user/converter101

the actual first folder with bus photos is:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/553886202AjVNJe

I hope the two address above come out so you can click on them.
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Re: Leveling Jack in Quartszsite
Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:55 am


Gary, you asked about Sikaflex. I will start another thread to cover that subject (keeps the subjects separate and searchable).

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