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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:36 pm


Hi Dale, no I didn't see that! :? that is pretty odd set up for a single door :shock:
OK Dan, who's idea was that? :lol: I see what you mean Clifford about the plug ;)
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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:48 pm


Thats not the way the door actually opens, I suspect the idler arm is disconnected. The door actually pushes out and then pivots towards the rear of the bus, similar to a pantograph door. When the door closes, it comes in and then lifts up into some jams to keep the door tight.

Eagle came out with these doors in 1988-1989. They were to replace the high labor costs of fitting the bi-fold doors. However, these doors were about $3,000.00 each. The door itself is one of the best doors ever made and it seals very nicely with absolutely no wind noise. I would not use the air controls that came with this door as they are very difficult to adjust and keep in adjustment. Eagle put this one piece door on several motorhomes with two hinges as a manual opening door and it was lightweight and sealed very good. I would recommend making it a manual door.

The door was made by Bode Corporation, a German owned company located in South Carolina. They are still in business but there is know telling what kind of money they get for these doors today.
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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:03 pm


As Dan said those are nice doors I have a friend that has one
Looks like they do have idler arm disconnected because they don't open like that.
They open very much like the rear 1/2 of a split door neat I think


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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:26 pm


I figured it was supposed to be something like a Setra door but just had something missing...

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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:28 pm


Bode Corporation made most of the doors for the European buses.
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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:05 pm


Julio, DDEC I was created before there was an industry standard (SAE J1587). It is a dual computer system with an ECM and what was called an EDU that controls the injectors. While I have heard they can be updated, I can't find any details. I have not heard of any specific problems, but it is pretty limited in features and I would think electronic parts will be hard to get.

It is hard to get a history time line, but it looks like DDC offered the DDEC I from 1985 to 1987 and then they switched to DDEC II. Apparently they also offered mechanical engines during that same period. In buses it would appear that you can't tell for sure whether it is mechanical or DDEC in the period from about '85~~'92.

DDC has a kit that will update the electronic components on a DDEC II to a DDEC IV for the Series 60 engine (R23529490). This kit includes some transducers that are not in the DDEC II configuration. This kit does not mention DDEC I. I suspect there are kits for the two strokes DDEC II engines as well.

I am not sure how Clifford knows that the engine is mechanical, but he is seldom wrong.

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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:21 pm


Jim, thanks a lot, this was very instructive because I know nothing about diesel engines.
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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:29 pm


I just noticed that there were additional photos on the Photobucket link. Those show the engine.

Clifford knows his engines. I can't see enough details to figure out if it is a mechanical or DDEC engine. Looked for the governor, but did not see it in the typical location that I am familiar with.

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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:54 pm


Jim in the third engine photo I can see the throttle linkage and two return springs, yup! it's a MUI ;)the DDEC unit would sit on top of the governor housing :) .
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Re: Ebay today 89 -15
Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:28 pm


Wow Van. The student has been paying attention to the professor!! :D

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