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how long to build an Eagle?
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how long to build an Eagle?
so i have a different type of question for you guys, but still very Eagle related:
i remember last year at some point i was ordering a part from Dan at Silver Eagle and we got to talking for a few minutes and he told me that back when he was working at the factory, it took Eagle 17 days to build a bus from start to finish(i think it was 17, but im only about 80% on that).
im very curious as to what the process was during those 17 days. a play-by-play, if you will. you know, "first they welded the frame together, then painted it, let that dry for XX hours, the next day the axles were installed......" you get the idea.
i know it seems random but id really like to know.
maybe dan can chime in?
kyle
i remember last year at some point i was ordering a part from Dan at Silver Eagle and we got to talking for a few minutes and he told me that back when he was working at the factory, it took Eagle 17 days to build a bus from start to finish(i think it was 17, but im only about 80% on that).
im very curious as to what the process was during those 17 days. a play-by-play, if you will. you know, "first they welded the frame together, then painted it, let that dry for XX hours, the next day the axles were installed......" you get the idea.
i know it seems random but id really like to know.
maybe dan can chime in?
kyle
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
Kyle,
It actually took 21 days from start to finish assuming all material was in each station when needed. Here is a brief synopsis of how the produstion line was run.
Station 0
This station is where they welded up all the sub frame assemblies such as bulkheads, side frames, roof frame, etc.
Station 1
This station is where they assembled the frame in the main frame jig and also wiped the frame down to prepare it for primer coating. When the coach frame was removed from the main jig, it had the suspension and srive axle installed.
Station 2
This station was a paint booth where the actually primed the entire frame.
Station 3-9 referred to as the Joining area.
These stations installed the air brake system, electrical system, roof skins, front and rear crown, silver siding and upper aluminum siding and interior floor. They also insulated the bus. Keep in mind that there were many other stations along the line that assembled the doors and electrical wiring harnesses that fed the production line. They also installed the HVAC system and radiator.
Station 10, Paint
The coach was painted half way through the production line. This cut down on the man hours it took to prep the bus for paint since there was now windows or trim on at this point. Eagle could literally have a bus masked up in 20 minutes and prepped for prime coat in another hour.
Station 11
This station installed all of the exterior windows and trim such as rain gutters and waist band trim
Station 12 Engine build up.
This is where they installed the engine and transmission which would already be built up with all of the accessories and hoses.
Station 13-16, Finishing
These stations focused more on the interior of the coach installing rubber flooring interior panels, dash, seats, etc. They also installed the tires and rims. When the bus came out of station 16 it would run on its own power.
Station 17, Final Barn
In the final barn, they checked the weight and balance, alignment, put the bus on the dynomometer to check engine horsepower, shift points on the transmission, brake balance test on each axle, etc. They also checked all of the wiring, torques, and troubleshooted any problems that may arise. They also cleaned the interior from all debris and prepped for delivery. They also road tested the coach several times. The coach was water tested for leaks and undercoated. They also had a paint booth in the final barn for and paint touch ups that may be needed.
This is all very brief, but it gives you a general idea of how the production line worked. Any questions, ask away.
Dan
It actually took 21 days from start to finish assuming all material was in each station when needed. Here is a brief synopsis of how the produstion line was run.
Station 0
This station is where they welded up all the sub frame assemblies such as bulkheads, side frames, roof frame, etc.
Station 1
This station is where they assembled the frame in the main frame jig and also wiped the frame down to prepare it for primer coating. When the coach frame was removed from the main jig, it had the suspension and srive axle installed.
Station 2
This station was a paint booth where the actually primed the entire frame.
Station 3-9 referred to as the Joining area.
These stations installed the air brake system, electrical system, roof skins, front and rear crown, silver siding and upper aluminum siding and interior floor. They also insulated the bus. Keep in mind that there were many other stations along the line that assembled the doors and electrical wiring harnesses that fed the production line. They also installed the HVAC system and radiator.
Station 10, Paint
The coach was painted half way through the production line. This cut down on the man hours it took to prep the bus for paint since there was now windows or trim on at this point. Eagle could literally have a bus masked up in 20 minutes and prepped for prime coat in another hour.
Station 11
This station installed all of the exterior windows and trim such as rain gutters and waist band trim
Station 12 Engine build up.
This is where they installed the engine and transmission which would already be built up with all of the accessories and hoses.
Station 13-16, Finishing
These stations focused more on the interior of the coach installing rubber flooring interior panels, dash, seats, etc. They also installed the tires and rims. When the bus came out of station 16 it would run on its own power.
Station 17, Final Barn
In the final barn, they checked the weight and balance, alignment, put the bus on the dynomometer to check engine horsepower, shift points on the transmission, brake balance test on each axle, etc. They also checked all of the wiring, torques, and troubleshooted any problems that may arise. They also cleaned the interior from all debris and prepped for delivery. They also road tested the coach several times. The coach was water tested for leaks and undercoated. They also had a paint booth in the final barn for and paint touch ups that may be needed.
This is all very brief, but it gives you a general idea of how the production line worked. Any questions, ask away.
Dan
Daniel Lenz
Brownsville, Texas
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Brownsville, Texas
The work of an unknown good man is like a vein of water flowing hidden underground, secretly making the ground greener.
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
Thanks Dan,
You have a great memory?
You have a great memory?
Harvester
1990 Eagle -Model 15
Connelly Springs, NC
1990 Eagle -Model 15
Connelly Springs, NC
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
Thanks Dan,
You have a great memory?
I must have a nervous finger..........Two post, same message.
You have a great memory?
I must have a nervous finger..........Two post, same message.
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
dan,
thanks! that was exactly what i was wondering about. we've all seen how our friends take these buses apart and put them back together, but i was curious how Eagle did it.
another question: as Eagle introduced different models, lengths, and widths of coaches, did the process pretty much stay the same till the end? i mean, on the production line, could they build 15-45's right along side of 20's? or was there modifications that needed to be done to the line?
and lastly........any pictures lying around?
kyle
thanks! that was exactly what i was wondering about. we've all seen how our friends take these buses apart and put them back together, but i was curious how Eagle did it.
another question: as Eagle introduced different models, lengths, and widths of coaches, did the process pretty much stay the same till the end? i mean, on the production line, could they build 15-45's right along side of 20's? or was there modifications that needed to be done to the line?
and lastly........any pictures lying around?
kyle
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
I have a ton of pictures ....most all are from the Redden archives ...and then my own pictures ....I dont know if I would be able to scan and post them as they are copyrighted....but mine I could scan and post ....if you do some web search for Redden archive stuff he made some videos about the Eagle plant with great footage ....
I do the difficult everyday ...the impossible just takes a little longer.
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
Kyle,
All models were built along side each other. Most of the differences were in the weld up area where they had all the jigs to produce all models.
All models were built along side each other. Most of the differences were in the weld up area where they had all the jigs to produce all models.
Daniel Lenz
Brownsville, Texas
The work of an unknown good man is like a vein of water flowing hidden underground, secretly making the ground greener.
Brownsville, Texas
The work of an unknown good man is like a vein of water flowing hidden underground, secretly making the ground greener.
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
I looked up the Redden site. Here is the link: http://www.reddenarchives.com/DVD/eagle.html
I wish I had the money to order the two videos ($45.95).
It would sure be fun to watch them at our next rally (hint hint).
Eagle78550, how many pictures do you have? If you have a lot, maybe one of us could put together a CD that could be made available to help add to the assistance fund of Eagles International.
Jim
I wish I had the money to order the two videos ($45.95).
It would sure be fun to watch them at our next rally (hint hint).
Eagle78550, how many pictures do you have? If you have a lot, maybe one of us could put together a CD that could be made available to help add to the assistance fund of Eagles International.
Jim
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Evergreen, CO
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Evergreen, CO
'85 Eagle 10 with Series 60 & Eaton AutoShift 10 speed transmission SOLD
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
Jim,good lookin out bud ,does any one here own a copy of the video already?maybe they could elaborate as to the quality and the content?Wish I had the dough too
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Re: how long to build an Eagle?
I don't have them,here are some previews you might like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IBWBMy-U5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpUtDCD7 ... xt_from=QL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED5LRyu7QHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id532mgZ1CY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LMLeG6AwqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kmQgWM_C0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUuVuLYQK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWeN0NnShW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRX_rllQRvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeX3x5628yY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IBWBMy-U5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpUtDCD7 ... xt_from=QL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED5LRyu7QHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id532mgZ1CY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LMLeG6AwqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kmQgWM_C0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUuVuLYQK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWeN0NnShW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRX_rllQRvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeX3x5628yY
Harvester
1990 Eagle -Model 15
Connelly Springs, NC
1990 Eagle -Model 15
Connelly Springs, NC