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Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
- luvrbus
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Yep, that is the way to build one mine is like that with the bolts going through the frame in factory holes.Art don't make the mistake I did on the first one not paying any attention I lined mine up with the center of the engine LOL
Clifford
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Art, your engine layout is like mine. The engine is very near the rear of the bus. I just went out and took a look at my hitch and it would not be bad for a small car. I think I might redo the ends to have a bit more weight in them. I don't know that the single bolt going into the welded plate has as much strength as I would like.
One thing I like about my hitch is the added support running down under the engine crossmember. As Clifford said, the hitch is centered on the engine instead of on the bus. I don't know if this was accidental or intentional, as Jim pointed out.
One thing I like about my hitch is the added support running down under the engine crossmember. As Clifford said, the hitch is centered on the engine instead of on the bus. I don't know if this was accidental or intentional, as Jim pointed out.
Dale Houston
1993 Eagle 15-45
Nashville, TN
1993 Eagle 15-45
Nashville, TN
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Dale,centering on the engine is a easy mistake to make with the bumper off I found out later that a few of my friends make the same mistake.with the hitch setting on top of the rail with a 3/4 grade 8 bolt 1 bolt on each side it will hold just fine that one bolt will pull the engine rail apart.My pickup has a 24k 5th wheel hitch and has 4- 1/2 bolts holding it scary huh
Clifford
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Clifford, what about the way mine is bolted to the welded on tab? You think that is okay if the bolt is Grade 8? I will probably never be towing anything bigger than a Jeep.
Dale Houston
1993 Eagle 15-45
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Dale, the short welded tab with a 3/4 bolt through is not going to bend or break if you had a tab 6 inches long and the bar didn't go all the way across the frame side to side that would be a different story.I would go any where with your hitch nothing wrong with it other than off center
Clifford
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Dale,
I agree with Clifford, it won't break unless you try to tow a tank!
I have heard some who have made their hitch off center so they could see their toad with their mirrors. Don't have any experience with it but it makes some sense.
At least you have a receiver, I don't and I need to redo it!
I agree with Clifford, it won't break unless you try to tow a tank!
I have heard some who have made their hitch off center so they could see their toad with their mirrors. Don't have any experience with it but it makes some sense.
At least you have a receiver, I don't and I need to redo it!
Paul Lawry
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Well, thanks for everyone's thoughts and pictures. I'm putting some plans together and I'll send pics of what I come-up with. . .and I'm sure Cindy will be posting them on the Sunchaser website (one day, I'll get her to post a project thread).
I found an extended width Class 3 RV hitch (76" wide), and I think with a little bit of 1/4" stock and the trusty arc welder, I might be able to fry something up. Once I get finished, I think we'll take the car out for a drag to Yuma sometime near the end of March. If you happen to see a maroon color Honda sedan out in a ditch somewhere near Yuma, please call me and let me know where it is!!
Art
I found an extended width Class 3 RV hitch (76" wide), and I think with a little bit of 1/4" stock and the trusty arc welder, I might be able to fry something up. Once I get finished, I think we'll take the car out for a drag to Yuma sometime near the end of March. If you happen to see a maroon color Honda sedan out in a ditch somewhere near Yuma, please call me and let me know where it is!!
Art
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Art. I am anal about towing. I have a big concern that tow cables or chains are attached to the trailer hitch. If we turn out to be less than the world's best welder, and the hitch comes loose, everything gets left behind. I have made a 3/8 thick strap that bolts to the large engine mount bolts. I bolt a 3/8 grade 70 (transportation grade) chain to that strap and connect it to the hitch plate that you attach the cables to. Just an extra safety measure.
Speaking of safety cables, the ones that you get with a Roadmaster 10K tow bar are 1/4 inch diameter and only have 6K BREAKING strength. I do not consider that to be acceptable for my 9K pound service truck. I have ordered 5/16 grade 70 chain (4700 pound working and 18,800 breaking) and heavy duty clevis slip hook with a latch for each end). I am bolting 1/2 inch grade 70 chain to the frame of the truck (not tow bar hardware). The safety chain will be a pain, but I really do not want the truck to get loose and kill someone.
A good source for of the chain, hooks, etc is: http://www.safelandindustrial.com/App/s ... rorder.asp
For your Honda, the tow cables will be fine, but you might still want to consider a set of safety chains from the frame to the hitch.
Jim
Speaking of safety cables, the ones that you get with a Roadmaster 10K tow bar are 1/4 inch diameter and only have 6K BREAKING strength. I do not consider that to be acceptable for my 9K pound service truck. I have ordered 5/16 grade 70 chain (4700 pound working and 18,800 breaking) and heavy duty clevis slip hook with a latch for each end). I am bolting 1/2 inch grade 70 chain to the frame of the truck (not tow bar hardware). The safety chain will be a pain, but I really do not want the truck to get loose and kill someone.
A good source for of the chain, hooks, etc is: http://www.safelandindustrial.com/App/s ... rorder.asp
For your Honda, the tow cables will be fine, but you might still want to consider a set of safety chains from the frame to the hitch.
Jim
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
I don't see what you guys are worried about. I lost my Dodge 4x4 when I first got my bus. I trusted the hitch without even inspecting it. It turns out that when Pacific Diesel rebuilt the engine the hitch was not re-installed. Angola coach prepared to deliver the coach only to find out they could not hook up their tow car. They called the mechanic at 11:00 at night to come to their shop and install the hitch. They were on the road by 1:00 AM. They towed their tow car from Florida to New Mexico. I hooked up my truck and hauled it to Quartzsite. On the way home I lost the truck in eastern Arizona. The whole hitch assembly, saftety chains and all pulled of TACK WELDS, and went out into the desert with my truck at 75 MPH. I drove an additional 26 miles before I discovered it was gone. You talk about a MOBILE ANGIOPLASTY. Every vein in my body swelled up thinking I might have killed someone. The Arizona State Patrol found it with searchlights. No one was injured. It did take out 14 steel posts and a quarter mile of barbed wire. The truck was not damaged.
I guess I will always frett a little over how the hitch is constructed. Oil Field Stout is my choice.
Dave
I guess I will always frett a little over how the hitch is constructed. Oil Field Stout is my choice.
Dave
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Re: Trailer Hitch Thoughts??
Dave, they go to right if you are in the right hand lane it is the left lane that worries me.I lost a Dodge D 50 one time because the Blue OX broke lucky for me I was in the right lane and just had to pay for a few signs and fencing.No fancy tow bars for me anymore I use a 60 dollar one made from real iron and like you say it is oil field tough.I have a cheap battery powered backup alarm on mine that grounds and goes off if I have a break away now
Clifford
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